of course, president obama hosted congressional leaders at the white house and they left that meeting and many said that it was constructive and they were optimistic that a deal could get done and i've been talking to my sources today and that same optimism isn't really present right now. there's more skepticism about a deal getting done and it is still very early in this process and this is a fluid situation so it could change on a dime, but that's what's going on behind the scenes and the white house monitoring clearly, what's happening. >> what's the president doing today? >> reporter: well, he doesn't have any events on his public schedule and he does have an industry with david gregory from "meet the press." other than that, we don't have a readout of what's happening and we're hoping to get more information as the day wears on about what, specifically, he's done and how he's been engaged in these talks, but right now my sources at the white house are not reading out any of the discussions that may or may not have happened behind the scenes here. >> kristen welker, appreciate tha